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  • Supports: 6.0.2
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  • Updated 10/23/2014
  • Created 08/31/2008
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  • License: All Rights Reserved
  • Newest File: v3.65
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About VuhDo

If you enjoy using VuhDo please consider a small donation for Iza.
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New VuhDo release v3.6 with support for Warlords of Draenor!

Keep those feature requests and bug reports coming!
Please file CurseForge tickets to report any bugs or to make feature requests.
For general help and discussion visit our forum at PlusHeal.com.

Be sure to check out the ultimate VuhDo setup walkthrough (Thanks Zohar).

VuhDo video tutorial on YouTube: Part 1 Part 2 (Thanks Bellamie).
Yet another video guide (Thanks Eressea).
Video tutorial on advanced features: unboxing and cluster scanner (Thanks Joseph/Apristine).
Collection of guides and tutorials (Thanks Zohar).


What is VuhDo? – VuhDo is a raid monitor similar to CTRaidAssist or Blizzards built-in raid frames. Basically this is about displaying the health of raid members in form of clearly arranged bars. VuhDo is primarily directed to healing classes, but will make use to almost any other class. Moreover several healing spells or other actions can be asserted to mouse clicks on those bars (Click-Heal).

What VuhDo can do:
1. Display all relevant informations about your raid members
- Life,
- Mana, other types of power
- Debuffs
- Range
- Incoming Heal
- Aggro
- Threat
- HoTs
- Charmed status
- PvP status
- Tooltips (for race, class, level and current location)
- Player Tags (such as afk, disconnected, dead)
- Shields

2. Casting
- You can heal, decurse, target, assist or focus raid memers with just one click
- You can bind any usable item and any macro to mouse clicks
- You can assign up to 40 mouse click combinations to cast on raid members
- You can assign up to 16 keys to cast when mouse over
- You can automatically fire your trinkets and instant casts whenever cooldown is over
- You can automatically resurrect and decurse players out of combat

3. Set up the raid
- manage main tanks (CTRA/ORA compatible) and personally selected players.
- Setup who is raid lead, assistant and master looter
- Check who is one of the above

4. Buffing
- You can easily keep track of all of your buffs
- You can rebuff automatically chosing the most suitable spell and target
- You can smart buff your raid automatically selecting missing buffs

Special Features:
- Up to 10 independent raid member panels
- Completely free arrangement of raid members: You can move any group to any position in any panel:
You can select to see your groups by class, group number role or any combination.
Easy group arrangement via Drag’n’Drop.
You can additionally setup to display Pets, Vehicles, Main Tanks, private Tanks.
A panel setup wizard lets you setup most common settings with a few clicks
- You can store different skins and arrangements of panels separately
Supported standards / Compatibility:
- CTRA/oRA: Main Tank setup / resurrection monitor
- libSharedMedia: Fonts, Statusbar textures
- Masque
- Clique


Honorable mention:
2014-04-25: I (Iza) am sorry to announce that I'm not
going to further develop or maintain VuhDo anymore.

I haven't been actively playing wow for some years
now and lately - as you might have noticed -
my efforts (and also interest) in maintaining and
developing WoW addons tends to zero, so I'll be
gone for good I guess.

Thanks to a fine community for the great times
and for sharing all the uncounted ideas and suggestions
which finally have made VuhDo what I believe is a decent
addon.

All the best to you & keep it going,
Iza

Version 3.65.

Known issues:
-- Settings are not saved when the character name includes a special character
--   Mac OS X WoW client bug - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14880818884
-- Incoming heal estimation reported is not even close to accurate
--   Bug in Blizzard API UnitGetIncomingHeals() - returns bogus values
-- AOE advisor not yet updated for Warlords of Draenor
--   Need new spell formulas and coefficients

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed profile activation due to group size 20
-- Fixed the inability of players without assist to see ready checks
-- Fixed VuhDo Options tooltip mispellings in EN and ES localizations

Improvements:
-- Added ability to select a default profile and key layout
--   Defaults are applied when no existing settings are found
-- Copying a profile now also creates a copy of the selected key layout
-- Added new raid group size 30 man
--   Tools > Profiles > Activate due to group size
--   Move > Hold to Test
-- Added new bouquets to check if a unit is in same zone as the player
--   Flag: Player Zone, Inside
--   Flag: Player Zone, Outside
-- Added new bouquets to check if a unit is a particular class of tank
--   Flag: Role Tank, Death Knight
--   Flag: Role Tank, Druid
--   Flag: Role Tank, Monk
--   Flag: Role Tank, Paladin
--   Flag: Role Tank, Warrior

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Version 3.64.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed Buff Watch support for the new type of derived spells
--    Fixed watching of Shaman Lightning Shield and Water Shield
--    Fixed watching of Paladin Seal of Truth
-- Fixed bug where magic debuffs were not flagged as removable for Monks
-- Removed deprecated Hunter spell Aspect of the Iron Hawk

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Version 3.63.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed bug where magic debuffs were not flagged as removable for Paladins

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Version 3.62.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed invalid Blizzard Talent API call

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Version 3.61.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed Masque integration to no longer call deprecated API 'Skin'

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Version 3.60.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed bug where saving custom debuff settings would reset the custom debuff color
-- Fixed bug where custom debuffs added by spell ID did not have all settings applied
-- Fixed bug where custom debuffs were not playing sounds when selected
-- Fixed bug where isInSameZone check always returned true
--    BuffWatch now correctly ignores other players outside the players zone
--    Global scanner perf bump when 'same zone' limit selected
-- Fixed bug in the combat log parsing for incoming swing damage amount
-- Removed deprecated spells and abilities
--    Removed Death Knight spell Unholy Frenzy
--    Removed Druid spell Nourish
--    Removed Druid spell Symbiosis
--    Removed Hunter aspect Aspect of the Hawk
--    Changed Hunter aspect Aspect of the Iron Hawk to Iron Hawk
--    Removed Monk raid cooldown Avert Harm
--    Removed Monk spell Serpent's Zeal
--    Changed Paladin spell Divine Light to Holy Light
--    Removed Paladin spell Inquisition
--    Removed Priest spell Hymn of Hope
--    Removed Priest spell Void Shift
--    Removed Priest spell Inner Fire
--    Removed Priest spell Inner Will
--    Changed Priest spell Greater Heal to Heal
--    Removed Rogue poison Mind Numbing Poison
--    Changed Rogue poison Paralytic Poison to Internal Bleeding
--    Changed Shaman spell Greater Healing Wave to Healing Wave
--    Removed Shaman weapon enchant Earthliving Weapon
--    Removed Shaman weapon enchant Flametongue Weapon
--    Removed Shaman weapon enchant Frostbrand Weapon
--    Removed Shaman weapon enchant Rockbiter Weapon
--    Removed Shaman weapon enchant Windfury Weapon
--    Removed Shaman totem Mana Tide Totem
--    Removed Shaman totem Stormlash Totem
--    Removed Shaman spell Burning Wrath
--    Removed Warrior raid cooldown Demoralizing Banner

Improvements:
-- Added new raid group size 20 man
--   Tools > Profiles > Activate due to group size
--   Move > Hold to Test
-- Added custom debuffs for 6.0 raid content
-- Added new spells and abilities
--    Added new Priest spell Clarity of Will as pumpable absorb
--    Added new Hunter aspect Aspect of the Fox
--    Added new Mage raid cooldown Amplify Magic
--    Added new Druid spell Rejuvenation (Germination) as HoT icon
--    Added new Druid spell Genesis as HoT icon

Changes:
-- Updated TOC for 6.0
-- Updated Swiftmendable check to include units with Rejuvenation (Germination)
-- Updated Swiftmendable check to exclude others HoTs when Rampant Growth is selected
-- Updated toolbox helper function for GetTalentInfo API changes
-- Updated 'Spells > Keys global' edit box to properly decorate text

Features:
-- Minor update for Warlords of Draenor

TODO:
-- Updated incoming/over heal estimation
--   Appears to not be a bug in VuhDo
--   UnitGetIncomingHeals API seems to return bogus values on beta/PTR?
-- Updated AOE advisor spell bases
--   Healing spell base values have been removed (H = Cx + B is now H = Cx)
--   Need to empirically test coefficients shown on beta tooltips
--   Use Hamlet's updated spreadsheet for WoD?
-- Updated AOE advisor glyph item IDs
-- Updated AOE advisor Glyph of Light of Dawn support

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Version 3.53.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed client side slider bug

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.52.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a bug in loading profiles via command line

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.51.

Bugfixes:

Improvements:
-- Added custom debuffs for 5.4 raid content

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.50.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixes to Chi Burst AoE advice (Thanks to Merlin52626)
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:

Changes:
-- Upated toc for patch 5.4

Features:

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Version 3.44.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.43.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed possible taint in debuff handling
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:

Changes:
-- Some checkboxes Options=>General=>Misc changed to "enable"
    instead of "disable" style

Features:

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Version 3.41.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:
-- Added new bouquet item "Statusbar: Overshielded"

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Version 3.40.

Bugfixes:
-- Some bugfixes from 3.39

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.39.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfixes
-- Fixed color picker color code

Improvements:
-- Smarter dynamic memory allocation
-- Creation of some ui elements if needed only to reduce memory usage

Changes:
-- Using all opaque texture for panel background now. May need
   to adjust opacity (options=>panels=>general)
-- Revamped Options=>Move and other UI elemets a bit

Features:

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Version 3.38.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- major memory optimizations
-- minor performance optimizations
-- Two VuhDo panels colliding should not lead to a short stutter
   anymore

Changes:

Features:
-- Color picker for single target direction arrow w/o range
    (options=>colors=states)
-- HoT bars can now be vertical, inverted, have axis turned
      (options=>panels=>hot bars)
-- Bouquet item for showing shields as standalone bar
-- You can have your target or focus as separate panel group now
   (options=>Move, "Special" => "Target", "Focus")

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Version 3.37.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed bug when sharing profiles

Improvements:
-- Power Word: Solace will now be recognized
-- Major code cleanup and memory optimizations
-- Added monk abilities to default bouquet "tank cooldowns extd"

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.36.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a bug where custom debuff icons could remain in wrong size
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Added some more ignore by... debuffs

Changes:

Features:
-- Added option to not fade debuff icons when player gets out of range
   (Options=>Debuffs=>Visuals)

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Version 3.35.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed irrelevant debuffs showing by icon
-- Fixed possible gvar taint issue
-- Minor bugfix

Improvements:
-- Minor optimizations
-- Added some Mage buffs to BuffWatch

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.34.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfix

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.33.

Bugfixes:
-- Shield status hot icon now working as configured
-- Fixed some talent spells not being recognized
-- Fixed alive units showing dead BGs sometimes
-- Added Dark intent to stamina buff

Improvements:
-- Added custom debuffs for 5.2 raids
-- Updated debuff ignore list

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.32.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed raid target icon in combo options=>panels=>misc

Improvements:
-- Many optimizations

Changes:
-- Changed overall shield value detection to 5.2 standard
   system

Features:
-- Separated icons and color "removable only" debuff option
   (Options=>Debuffs=>Standard)

-- Added Shield Bar
     (Options=>General=>Incoming, "Shield Bar")
     (Options=>Colors=>Modes, "Shield Bar")

-- Introducing Text Providers for
   (Options=>Panels=>Misc "Overheal" Indicator)
   (Options=>General=>Indicators", "more" next to ...
   "Mana Bar", "Side Left", "Side Right".
   More to come...)

-- You can now copy/paste color codes as hex string in any
   color picker

-- Added default PvP flag carrier bouquet
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Version 3.31.
- updated toc for patch 5.2

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Version 3.30.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed damage flash bar
-- Fixed possibly incorrect button sizes after changing a profile

Improvements:
-- BuffWatch will be hidden in pet battles now

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.29.

Bugfixes:
-- BuffWatch Rebuff Arcane Brilliance if either no spell power
   OR no crit buff on target

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.28.

Bugfixes:
-- Hopefully fixed Eternal Flame AoE predicition

Improvements:
-- Performance optimizations
-- Direction arrow bouquet now can have range text yards/10
-- Added more shields to shield absorb (thx acer13189)

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.27.

Bugfixes:
-- Performance optimizations

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.26.

Bugfixes:
-- Workaround for unit incoming resurrection client bug
-- Fixed a bug in shield absorb calculation

Improvements:
-- Added several default custom debuffs
     (options=>tools=>reset "Custom Debuffs" may be needed)
-- Increased performance
-- All mutual exclusive buffs should be recognized by BuffWatch now
-- Bouquet item "SHIELD_COUNT" now works for shields from all sources

Changes:

Features:
-- Added Chi Burst to trackable AOE advices (experimental)

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Version 3.25.

Bugfixes:
-- Bugfix with bouquets

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.24.

Bugfixes:
-- Hopefully fixed a bug with icons disappearing after player died

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.23.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a bug with mana bars etc disappearing sometimes when player
   target changed

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.22.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a major bug not updating raid members properly sometimes

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.21.

Bugfixes:
-- AOE advice calculations fix for Priests
-- Fixed rez announce chat channel name

Improvements:
-- Signicantly reduced memory/cpu consumption on
   when changing player target.

Changes:
-- Removed "Keep Stance" from Options=>Spells=>Misc
   (didn't work, use /console autoUnshift 0/1 instead)

Features:

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Version 3.20.

Bugfixes:
-- Changed "Dark Power", "Light Power" constants to "Chi" pendants

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.19.

Bugfixes:
-- Changed "Mastery: Illuminated Healing" to "Illuminated
   Healing" to track the buff really
-- Fixed error in options menu introduced with 5.1

Improvements:
-- Increased display update speed after pet summon
-- Weapon enchants will now be told apart

Changes:
-- Tagged for version 5.1

Features:
-- Added Symbiosis to BuffWatch
-- Added rogue poisons to BuffWatch
-- Added shaman offhand weapon enchant to BuffWatch

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Version 3.18.

Bugfixes:
-- Changed Dark Intent to raid wide buff for BuffWatch
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Added improved version of PW:S to shield absorb tracking

Changes:

Features:
-- Added bouquet item for counter "Counter: All shields absorb #k"
   showing the remaining shield absorption of all shields on the
   target

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Version 3.17.

Bugfixes:
-- Added missing GCD reference spell for monks
-- Possible fix for flashing hots
-- Possible fix for bouquets after profile loading

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.16.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a serious cpu resource hog introduced with 3.9

Improvements:
-- Increased performance after raid roster changes

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.15.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfix in tooltips
-- Bugfix (hopefully) for totem cooldowns not displaying properly

Improvements:
-- Added a lot of mop default custom debuffs

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.14.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed repeated ready-check not showing properly
-- Fixed some HoTs not updating properly when changing profiles

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:
-- Added bouquet item "flag: class color if active"
   This enables you to apply class color to any active
   icon

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Version 3.13.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a range detection bug in PT panel
-- Fixed party panel hiding bug
-- Fixed a bug with options not showing active panel sometimes
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Inreased hitbox for custom debuff tooltips

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.12.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Improved registering of events when force show blizz frames
   is enabled in options=>general=>miscs

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.11.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a bug in player group determination
-- Fixed several possible taint problems
-- Soulstone, Enveloping Mist and Surging Mist
   should now work as intended if Soothing mist
   is channeling
-- Fixed coincidence with other addons hiding Blizz UI elements
-- Fixed bug in range detecton

Improvements:
-- Player powers will be updated more frequently
-- Minor optimizations

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.9.

Bugfixes:
-- Minor bugfix with range detection for enemy targets
-- Minor bugfix with overheal higlight not reseting properly
-- Other minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Reduced memory consumption
-- Major options code rework, reduces memory usage, increased
   flexibility for future extensions
-- Added Sacred Shield to trackable buffs

Changes:
-- Added "Vixar" to default libSharedMedia fonts

Features:
-- On popular demand: Options=>General=>Misc "Hide Blizz xyz" is
   tri-state now. So you can "leave alone/show/hide blizz" frames.
   May need to overwrite existing profiles in order to have Blizz
   UI elements shown when hidden from another addon
   Defaults to: Leave alone

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Version 3.7.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed problem with minimap button

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.6.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed dc shield macro icons
-- Fixed group size detection for group of 5
-- Fixed shield absorb calculation
-- Fix for libSharedMedia which seems to be registering
   nil for "none" borders now
-- Hopefully fixes a bug with minimap setting not saving
   sometimes
-- Minor bugfixes
-- Attempt to fix smart cast battle rez

Improvements:
-- Added Grimoire of Sacrifice to BuffWatch
-- Added Cenarion Ward to hot list
-- Added Serpent's Zeal to trackable hots
-- Improved BuffWatch options buff detection
   for low level toons

Changes:
-- Integrated minimap icon into VuhDo to save
   some bytes
-- Some Code cleanup

Features:

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Version 3.5.

Bugfixes:
-- All characters "." and "#" will be removed from bouquet names
   to avoid crashes
-- Switched shield absorb estimation to spell ids instead of spell names
-- Aggro indicator marks working again
-- Minor bugfixes

Improvements:
-- Improved range checking for hostile targets
-- Added default bouquet "Raid Cooldowns" (Thank you, Zohar)
-- Added Spirit Shell to "Pump Aegis" feature
-- Updated libSharedMedia
-- Minor optimizations

Changes:

Features:
-- Added default bouquet "Raid CDs" (Thanks to Zohar)

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Version 3.4.

Bugfixes:
-- Some rewrite of buff watch code to make it more robus
-- Fixed glyph/talent taint bug
-- Fixed a bug with resurrection announcement
-- Fixed a bug with VuhDo not auto hiding in parties
-- Hopefully fixed a bug with target/focus frame taint

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.2.

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed use of custom macros

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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Version 3.1.

Bugfixes:
-- Sharing profiles fixed
-- Casting Purify Spirit, Eternal Flame fixed
-- Eternal Flame available for HoT Icons

Improvements:

Changes:

Features:

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  • #1857
    added in next update :)
  • #1864
    Thanks man, you rock!
  • #1850
    Update 1.183
    ============

    since Version 1.182 (to 1.183):

    Bugfixes:
    -- Fixed a bug where panels didn't stop moving while in options screens
    -- Fixed a bug where player's role hasn't been reset after spec change
    -- Fixed a bug where buffs etc. haven't been reinitialized after spec change

    Improvements:
    -- Updated chinese localization (simplified & traditional)
    As always: Big Thanks to Liu for his good work!!!
    -- Scanned talent trees from raid members will be reset after spec change

    Changes:

    Features:
  • #1851
    Ah, so it IS scanning talents for organizing players by role. I always wondered.
  • #1848
    I absolutly love this addon and this its better than GridClique and healbot by a mile :) I have one issue and havent seemed to be able to find the solution to it, probably me but thought Id ask here. I have ordered my main panel by roles and I understand that Vuhdo doesnt always assign them to the correct place so I can manually overide this by binding menu and clicking on them to change it. The problem I have though is that there will be 2 instances of this person in both places instead of them being moved to the healers column, is this something Im doing wrong?
  • #1849
    Hi,
    thank you.

    Do you have 4 groups exactly named "Melee - Tanks", "Melee - DPS", "Ranged DPS" and "Healers". If you have "Ranged" (with no DPS) and Healers you will see a healer twice. You could also try to "Reset Roles" from VuhDo minimap dropdown.

    It may also be worth waiting a couple of minutes before doing a manual role override, because VuhDo will scan talent trees of all raid members one by one to correct the initial heuristic role assignments.
  • #1866
    Sweet thx, Ill try this :)
  • #1846
    Is it just me, or does anyones bars also stay solid white what ever option you enable/disable?
  • #1847
    I would really apreciate if you could at least read through the first page of a comment thread before posting your problems...
    CTRL+C, CTRL+V:
    Config and disable "Missing" color check mark on all buffs (or select colors that you remember better :) )
  • #1843
    First let me just say that this is an unbelievably good addon. I have not even learned everything it can do yet and I love it!

    I discovered a possible bug last night. While in battlegrounds with my priest about half the time that I would die and be in guardian spirit form, I could not heal with vuhdo. It would say I was in shapeshift form. To be sure that it was not WoW, I tried using the heals on my bars when this would happen and they worked fine.

    Sometimes if I just clicked on vuhdo a lot it would eventually heal.

    Might be something to look into.

    Thanks again for a great addon.
  • #1845
    Hi,
    Misc and disable "Keep stance". This feature originally is for shadow priests and feral druids who don't like to automatically change their stance after occasionally clicking on a health bar.
  • #1842
    Can't say how much I love this mod. Though I have tried twice now :) I am wondering what files I need to copy to port all of my settings from one computer to another. I have been just copying all of them, but this seems a little excessive.
  • #1844
    Hi,
    thanks a lot. You need to copy all vuhdo.lua from your wtf folder. There should be one file per realm and one for each of your toons.
  • #1838
    Here's another. How to replicate:
    1. Start a raid, get 10 players in the group.
    2. Use a VuhDo arrangement that is set for 10 players in two groups, no other special frames.
    3. Have one player disconnect (D/C) from the game.
    4. Add an 11th player to the raid. Note that this one is now in Group 3.
    5. Remove the D/C'd player from the raid. Note that WoW does not automatically move the newest player to fill the spot of the departed one. Instead the newest player remains in Group 3.
    6. Notice that VuhDo only sees 10 players in the raid, which is correct, so it only displays the 10-player arrangement as it was asked to.
    7. Therefore this is a situation when you have 10 in the raid, and no one else, but you can only see 9.

    I know this is not really VuhDo's fault, because it's just WoW behavior that the newest person remains in Group 3. And VuhDo should not be asked or expected to do things like move a player to group 1 or 2 to fill an empty slot, that would be too automatic (if it's even allowed). However, it is still misleading to be viewing only 9 players when 10 are present.

    Therefore I want to suggest that VuhDo should calculate the arrangement that it uses based on how many 5-man groups within the overall raid have players in them, instead of just by counting the total number of players. Unless you have checked the "loose" box that makes VuhDo ignore WoW's groups. In the case I described above, Group 3 should still be shown. In effect, the 25-man arrangement should be chosen if there is anyone at all in groups 3, 4, or 5, and the 40-man arrangement should be chosen if there is anyone at all in 6, 7, 8. Is this reasonable?
  • #1839
    I forgot to add this: of course it is the raid leaders' responsibility to move the new player into the desired groups. I just wanted to make that clear. But until they move that player, the player should still be shown by VuhDo somehow, not left invisible (even though they can still be seen in /raidinfo).
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