Illidan "freed"

It would be nice to see the most popular if not 2nd most popular (next to Arthas) not be %@#@d by a raid of 25 pillagers.

Yes after Blizz introduced the Death Knight class, they said that "ALL" current classes are supposed to be hero type classes, none of them aside from the Paladin have that quality name plate, such as Demon Hunter, Keeper of the Grove, Arch Mage, Mountain King, etc.

And it is just down right pathetic Blizzard decided to say Illidan went insane and evil, rather than providing said information as to what made him evil.

Illidan was NEVER and still IS NOT evil enough to be killed. In the Warcraft Encyclopedia it states that after consuming the skull of Gul'dan Illidan turned into a type of NE / Demon Hybrid, and that the Fel Energies that he consumed transformed him into this, and he is unique in the fact that Illidan has been able to maintain his sanity and composure, although he may seem cruel in some if not most of his actions, it is in my opinion to simly get !*#@ done.

Just like a T-shirt I ordered from T-shirt hell. It's a picture of a Pyramid. Underneath it, it says. "Slavery, It gets !*#@ done."

Akama seems to be to much of a fool to realize that Illidan saved his people, and is working towards a larger goal of crippling the Burning Legion. He wouldn't have "enslaved" the broken, I wouldn't think. It's disappointing Blizzard would make him out to be such an Evil POS as they have done. Fix the problem imo.

Not that I don't enjoy how you wrote the story of Akama turning out to be some type of justified Betrayer although Illidan was trashed when he did what he thought was right.

But I am simply stating that there isn't enough lore or story coming into the expansion to justify Illidan's insanity and turning evil. When WC3: Frozen Throne ended he was viewed as a Misguided GOOD hero (not evil).

What are our characters in WC3 doing? Gaining power to defeat our enemies. Illidan is gaining power to defeat his enemies, those being the Lich King and the Burning Legion.

He is striving to protect the land and races that have banded with him and redeemed Outland from its Demonic take over which was Magtheridon. The Naga and Blood Elves (the ones still with him, and not following that barbie doll Kael'thas) that view him as a great leader, when the Night Elves viewed him a vigilante and nothing good would ever come from him(which is false). I would think he would be building an army to protect himself or help defeat the Lich King or Burning Legion.

He made peace with Malfurion and agreed to never endanger the Night Elves or Azeroth ever again. That imo would be evidence enough to the fact that he wasn't the evil jerk that World of Warcraft quests etc. has made him out to be. Him gaining power and bolstering his forces in somewhat cruel ways is in fact because of his NE / Demon hybrid state, such as the WoW Encyclopedia states.

Just because he is a cruel leader, doesn't necessarily mean he sould be evil. Idk, maybe Blizz should actually write some books or explain such actions about their bigger lore characters such as Illidan explaining specifically why they would completely change the direction they were going with originally with a character.

Warcraft 3 - Illidan (small impact hero)

Frozen Throne - Illidan being highly popular - trying to defeat the largest villain / threat on Azeroth. (good guy imo) Allied with the blood elves to help his chances of defeating the Lich King and plot against Kil'jaiden.

World of Warcraft - Terrible evil mad man, with no sympathy or pity what so ever. Enslaves anything or anyone he can to gain power.

(Not exactly much lore between Frozen Throne and WoW to declare him as an evil entity, other than maybe going slightly insane after losing the fight against Arthas, after the Lich King gave him his full power)

After my highly descriptive arguements Bornakk you should just see if Chris Metzen needs an assistant to watch over you Developers Lore decisions. Because I just may fit the job, so that you people can have checks and balances, because I see none so far...

I would... and there are jobs I like and can do.... I just don't feel like moving to Texas; Too damn hot.

edit: speaking as such... I should stop trolling and actually work.

No reply to my post, #49, Bornakk?

Overall, I think I can deal with Illidan dying. But it is quite disappointing to see how 25 pillagers come along and weaken him while some dirty pirate hooker comes in and finishes him off. All the while him supposedly being known as "The Betrayer" and supposedly evil. Although in doing every deed he has done, it has in fact helped or was intended to help in some substantial way. All the while when Akama betrays Illidan, even most likely knowing Illidan's plan to cripple or eventually help defeat the Burning Legion, he is viewed as a Hero for Betraying Illidan.

There just isn't enough supporting information behind this complete U-turn with the Illidan lore. Going from a good guy in WC3 & Frozen Throne to a completely nasty and utterly evil villain in WoW. And there is very little information as to what happens to Maiev and Akama after his supposed death, and there should be some large scale event in Shattrath or something after defeating him. Just something for the entire community and fans would be nice to justify the "Betrayal" of a truley epic and popular hero.

I can tell you why we killed Illidan. We're not playing the game from Illidan's point of view. We're playing under the point of view of a soldier in an army lead by the Naaru. First, you have to remember that Illidan is working the Ashtongue and other Broken clans to death; they are slaves and his prisioners. Illidan stole Akama's soul and sealed it inside of the Black Temple for the Light's sake. The Naaru's primary soldiers and enforcers are the Draenei, and since Broken are pretty much decayed Draenei, it would make sense that the Draenei would want to free the Broken to an extent. After all, a person's a person no matter how mutated.

You also have to remember that the Black Temple, once the Temple of Karabor, was a sacred and Holy place to the Draenei. Illidan has sided with demons and become something of a half-demon himself and done it willingly to boot. That is utter blasphomey to people who follow the light so religiously. Its like claiming to purge rats from a sewer with an army of mice; it doesn't look like he's making things any better.

As for Illidan's sanity, was siding with demons his own conscious decsion, or was it a subconscious urge of the demon within him, much like Leotharas the Blind's demon eventually ripped itself from out of the Blood Elf's body. If we see any further incantations of Illidan, it is likely to be in the form of his inner demon that survived Night Elf Illidian's demise.

While Illidan's sanity is much in question, like I said we're questing and raiding from the Draenei's point of view, and there is no doubt that they consider Illidan to be insane.