Curse client premium (according to new rules frlom blizzard)  can't be charged for anymore.  With that being said, what does the future for the client hold?Just so it's know, i'm not spouting nonsense, the link to the news, and the blue post is right below.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php

Try exiting the client completely then launching it again, let me know if the problem persists after that. There will be no information lost when we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything when that happens.

@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to. All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game to encourage people to buy the addon.

Curse client installs the Curse profiler. If someone wanted to get technical they could say you're charging for the profiler. I'm simply curious, not trying to start a ruckus.

Please re run the installer at http://www.curse.com/client/

We had a bug in a early version of the CC that contain a corrupted updater.

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Originally Posted by dusthawk

There will be no information lost when we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything when that happens.

@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to. All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game to encourage people to buy the addon.

Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:

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Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.

Is there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?

Curse will have to stop offering the Warcraft extras under the premium side that they are charging for.  They simply cannot have any service related to add ons, about add ons...anything that charges money.

charge for services related to the add-on

Not rocket science.

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I just read about this curse client premium thing and i am pretty disappointed by this. I was using the curse client only for the purpose of automatically updating my addons.

As this is now impossible without having to pay for it, i will now uninstall the client and wanted to ask how to delete my account here on curse as i will no longer be using the account. I couldn't find a 'cancel membership' button or the like.

Additionally to the fact that i no longer have a use for the client now, i am worried that only having installed a client which charges money for addon-related stuff could violate Blizzards new ToU, which is the other reason i am going to uninstall the client now.

I created my account here in the assumption that i were joining a free community as stated on the account-creation-site and not becoming a customer of a company.

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Originally Posted by dusthawk

There will be no information lost when we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything when that happens.

@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to. All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game to encourage people to buy the addon.

 

Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:

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Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.

Is there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?

Yes you even highlighted it. It says services related to the addon. The premium client is a service related to the addon so that is EXACTLY what blizzard is reffering to.

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Originally Posted by vytae

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Originally Posted by dusthawk

There will be no information lost when we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything when that happens.

@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to. All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game to encourage people to buy the addon.

 

Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:

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Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.

Is there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?

 

 

Yes you even highlighted it. It says services related to the addon. The premium client is a service related to the addon so that is EXACTLY what blizzard is reffering to.

Actually Bliz can not do a dang thing about the Curse client as it is not just Specific just to wow. It is also for War and I think one other.. i think.  Curse doesnt say you have to have it... there is a free one... but The client is not just Wow specific hence blizzards rule can not apply to it.

The Curse Client Premium is a service related to the addons. It works with WoW addons, no matter how you try to argue it the premium service for the WoW part of the client will have to stop. Unless you want to see curse in a lawsuit.

does that mean my isp will have to offer its internet acces for free ?

its in relation to downloading the addon and accessing wow server i get charged to download any addon as per my terms of use of data re my ISP

LMAO Blizzard opened a can of worms there

and as per say curse isnt affected in that aspect as all addons are free to download there is no extra features for premium acces apart form like better speed. and auto update and so on.

this is in no relation to blizzard

woot wonder when my isp gets banned for charging for downloads of addons

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Originally Posted by Lotrado

I just read about this curse client premium thing and i am pretty disappointed by this. I was using the curse client only for the purpose of automatically updating my addons.

As this is now impossible without having to pay for it, i will now uninstall the client and wanted to ask how to delete my account here on curse as i will no longer be using the account. I couldn't find a 'cancel membership' button or the like.

Additionally to the fact that i no longer have a use for the client now, i am worried that only having installed a client which charges money for addon-related stuff could violate Blizzards new ToU, which is the other reason i am going to uninstall the client now.

I created my account here in the assumption that i were joining a free community as stated on the account-creation-site and not becoming a customer of a company.

You are jumping the gun here. The client did not suddenly become pay-to-use; it is still free, and does all the things you want it to do. In fact, there is no non-premium version.

If you want to cancel your account, that's up to you, and nothing I can say will disuade you. But I assure you that there is no force-paid version. May I also suggest, in the future, about the Client or any other piece of software you may have, you USE it first before you assume anything?

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does that mean my isp will have to offer its internet acces for free ?

its in relation to downloading the addon and accessing wow server i get charged to download any addon as per my terms of use of data re my ISP

LMAO Blizzard opened a can of worms there

and as per say curse isnt affected in that aspect as all addons are free to download there is no extra features for premium acces apart form like better speed. and auto update and so on.

this is in no relation to blizzard

 

woot wonder when my isp gets banned for charging for downloads of addons

That's a stupid example. Your ISP charges you for access to the internet, not for use of a tool that directly and automatically updates addons.

 I'm sorry if you guys don't see that it's sinmple logic here. The Clien'ts premium server is a paid service related to the addons. if you don't understand that, you're in preschool or you probably should still be. As is I stated earlier you can word it all pretty and fany if you like, but gold selling companies have been trying to use fancy words for years, and what has that gotten them with blizzard? Sued for 8 million in one case in which blizzard won. is that the fate you want to see Curse end up with? Will curse go on if it gets hit with that kind of lawsuit? That's the questions you should be asking, and whether it's worth risking it for curse.

what is the benefit if you are a premium member?

Actually I find this whole line of conversation hilarious considering it's primarily between folks who know next to nothing about legitimate business and its conduct.  There are many services that charge for various levels of access to their content, although still offering all the content for free through various other fashions.  The best example is Fileplanet.com which has different levels of bandwidth available for downloading patches and is considered an "Official Mirror Site" by Blizz.  Curse could easily follow this route with their client, although from the "entitlement" crowd I'm sure there'll be a ton of complaints as to why they should pay for the convienience.

Curse's new motto should be:

"Welcome to Curse, we're sorry for any convienence."

The new Curse Client is coming soon. I have not seen it (yet) but the devs say great things about it, and you guys should see the Staff forum for collected suggestions. It is unreal, and if even a fraction of those ideas make it, then the CC will be amazing.

I don't know what the exact differences between the Premium and the Free version will be, and something tells me they aren't finalized at this time.

For those you missed that one, important word in the previous sentence, I said FREE. The Premium version will be paid for, but the free version will still exist, and development on it will continue. Might even be the same program, just with some features locked. Shareware does this all the time.

Let's recap, shall we?

Free to download addons, either manually or with both version of the Client? Check.

Free Client for those who do not want to pay money? Check.

Curse.com hosting thousands of addons by hundreds of authors? Check.

Sounds good to me.

well,this Premium thingy disturbs me aswell,not concerning if free or not.

you want to have money for premium membership (which i didn't clearly was informed about i was going to count in when registering myself at curse.com).

Let's say,its free now,and charged for in future...as i am now premium,i will have to change this myself.don't i ?

Sorry,but this waay round is an epic fail,even though i don't blame you for doing this in advance,but let's say by not seeing the concerns from the users PoV.

Regards

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well,this Premium thingy disturbs me aswell,not concerning if free or not.

you want to have money for premium membership (which i didn't clearly was informed about i was going to count in when registering myself at curse.com).

Let's say,its free now,and charged for in future...as i am now premium,i will have to change this myself.don't i ?

Sorry,but this waay round is an epic fail,even though i don't blame you for doing this in advance,but let's say by not seeing the concerns from the users PoV.

 

Regards

I believe the Premium that you have right now is a preview, to get you interested with the new features and interface of this wonderful program; of course, if you don't want to pay for it, you don't have to pay for it. You will have the same Curse. You will have the same add-on selection.

You will just not have the same program to assist you.

This is not a true statement.

Thank you, fixed. ;]

i don't know about you people but i've had the premium account forever and i pay nothing. i have never even come close to giving them any financial information about myself so i don't see what the ruckus is about. are people actually being charged for this? i know that premium was intended to be a paid service once it was perfected but if it has reached that point i am still using it for free.

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Thank you, fixed. ;]

hehe...thank you :)

Edited. This was fairly off topic.

This new Curse premium is BS I won’t pay for stuff that makes my Experience with Curse more enjoyable. Having to manually update each addon and only being able to update one at a time is the worst thing curse has done since I started using it.

I had premium for a month for free and today it turned into the stupid basic

well and you guys wonder why everyone uses WoWMatrx? of corse they do because of butthurt "our Updater kind of works but if you want it to run fast and nicely you have to pay!"

of corse you lost Money because of WoWMatrix but you guys should think about WHY so many ppl used it.

for me there was always a Top 3 of Addon-updaters

1. Aceupdater (broken)

2. WoWmatrix (broken)

3. CurseClient

don't get me wrong i love curse! the service is great there is nearly every addon you need on this site and the most of them are Updatet really fast best site for addons really, but this whole "you don't have to buy the premiumversion of our updater if you don't want too" is a pain in the a**

please do the right thing and make it for free so this "ok" updater moves to a "top" updater

I will also be uninstalling Curse updater. I am not going be pay 30 bucks a year for a product that I was using for free. Yea, the same "functionality" is there, but now I can only download one mod at a time. I could go to the site and do it faster myself...

Bad move Curse.

the point of the matter yes curse is offering a free version, and a premium version with extra's

was that not what carbonite did? umm yes and that created this whole stink so what makes curse better?

I must say I'm just sad to see that Curse ahve started charging for the service of update all, which is primarily the reason I use curse..

Ah well - EVEN though it feeeeels liek, when Carbonite got greedy - I don't care if it is not the same.

you want my money for a service, which I do not care to pay for.... it makes me sad :-(

WHY OH WHY WOULD I PAY FOR THIS?!!! Ace Client Never did this crap why is curse doing it? Oh well....back to manually getting it.

You guys can still use it for free. Others will pay for it and keep the site alive.

Just stop complaining about it, please.

If Blizz has a problem, they'll get up off their throne and put a mighty boot on Curse's neck, at which point you'll probably get your wish for a while, then Curse will drown in bandwidth and server expenses, crash during every patch day as they try to keep the site viable, and ultimately go down under a wave of users that feel they deserve everything in life to be free!

When was the last time you clicked on an ad at a site you like? That helps them pay the bills. Everything has a cost.

CARBONITE was free, then they started to charge for it. BLIZZARD locked them out. So how is Curse getting away with it? I say this. Everyone complain to BLIZZARD FORMALLY, either in game GM, or in support email. I think that Curse will also be locked out. If enough of you complain.

I for one, was already pissed at Curse and WowInterface. The end around, monopoly play that they did to WOWMATRIX, the best addon site there was, was nothing more then a money grab. With the relaease of 3.1, suddenly WOWMATRIX no longer could use the addons that I had. Alot of them, and today they still can't

If you look at the situation, it was, and is, a money grab from all Warcraft players. Curse wants your money. And they want it for something that was free yesterday, and today, the same site now charges for what was free yesterday. Update all, no longer works for us users, unless we pay curse 25 bucks. Bullshit.  Screw CURSE.

I am looking for another addon website. I am also going to contact the authors of the addons that I do use, and let them know my feelings on this curse situation, and ask them to please allow wowmatrix to use their addons. Also, I intend on asking if the authors themselves are getting any kick backs from Curse or Wowinterface.

Stuff it Curse, I will use your site for now, but only till I find another site. And when I do, I will make sure to post the free site here.

Don't be so surprised that people are going to be upset over this change.  It would have been nice to know when the free preview was going to end... a pop up saying that you have 3 more days of the free premium service or some such thing.  I don't recall seeing anything about how long the trial would last, or that it even was a trial, in the read me file.  Some communication on that point would have been nice...  Oh yeah, if I pay for this subscription will the ads go away?  I'm sure nobody would be excited about paying a subscription to get adds downloaded with their add-ons.  I know I don't want them.  If I'm paying, then I don't want ads.

so i have looked and looked and looked again to see whats going on and where my negative (not beligerent, but negative comment) post went off to. It would seem that it has been deleted in what i would assume is an attempt by curse to censor peoples opinion of this REALLY bad idea. In fact it seems that over the last few days every comment that people are expressing displeasure enough to want to remove their account from curse & or delete the client has been removed from this thread....

so ill repost

I suppose what it comes down to is that if you are unhappy with the way curse is conducting itself all you really can do is get your addons somewhere else. I REALLY hope the authors are very quick to respond to this attempt by curse to make money off of their hard work. And before curse drowns they come to their senses and resolve this sillyness. I have been an exclusive user of this site for nearly 4 years and its just bad form IMO. And who knows maybe blizz will in fact get involved and start offering addon gathering from a game client and host addons themselves. Resolving this whole issue and making a hell of a game improvement in the process.

As someone who is new to the client I was sadly disappointed that the only way to update my addons more than one at a time is to upgrade to the premium. I tried installing a new addon through the client and it won't download at all either. So now what? I guess its time to go back to the manual way of doing it since that's the only way I am going to get new addons installed. /shrug And I was really loving the client too.

this is some bullcrap....they are going to charge me for a simple program that updates my addons for me and saves me 10mins.....there are more important programs on the internet that are always free....this is just a joke... they are going to lose sooo many people!

Actually the author's have been largely supportive. Perhaps you didn't take note of the author reward program.

You're entitled to your opinion of course. I see no need to delete something like this.

You guys can still use it for free. Others will pay for it and keep the site alive.

Just stop complaining about it, please.

If Blizz has a problem, they'll get up off their throne and put a mighty boot on Curse's neck, at which point you'll probably get your wish for a while, then Curse will drown in bandwidth and server expenses, crash during every patch day as they try to keep the site viable, and ultimately go down under a wave of users that feel they deserve everything in life to be free!

When was the last time you clicked on an ad at a site you like? That helps them pay the bills. Everything has a cost.

First of all... this is a (find a better word) response.  You're not appealing to anything here.  I pay for my internet, I pay for my electricity, I pay for my WoW subscription, I paid for my computer.  Now I have to pay to get my "update all" button to not be greyed out?  "Accelerate your downloads with Curse Premium" now pops up when I'm updating A SINGLE ADDON AT A TIME... am I being choked out of bandwith because I'm not paying them...?  Begging the question, am I being choked out of bandwith when I'm just downloading the addons from the site because it doesn't say "paid" next to my name?

Put a "donate" button with a crying orc beside it, and be done with it.

Secondly, I can hunt for my addons using the "search" site.  Are they going to start charging for the search feature when everyone stops using their client, or when nobody uses the "premium" membership garbage? 

So, yeah, I'm going to complain about it.  It's ridiculious to have something for a while, and then take it away and tell you to pay for it.  Not..gonna..do..it.

"So, yeah, I'm going to complain about it.  It's ridiculious to have something for a while, and then take it away and tell you to pay for it.  Not..gonna..do..it."

It's not ridiculous.  It's business. Nothing comes for free for long.  Remember when you could get free streaming audio and video from Real?  This is the way things are done, unfortunately.  You get a free taste for a few weeks, months, or in some cases years, then one day... POOF!  It's not free anymore.  If you want it, then you have to pay.  There are video games that allow you to play for no cost beyond the original purchase.  Nobody complains about paying a subscription to WoW, even thought they pay $15/mo to play.  Why complain about $2/mo to get reliable downloads of add-ons as soon as they are ready for use?

I still think some advance warning in the form of some pop-up window on the downloader client would have been nice, and might have saved some of this ire from the customer base.