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Fri, Mar 20 2009 8:12 PM
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Curse client premium (according to new rules frlom blizzard) can't be charged for anymore. With that being said, what does the future for the client hold?Just so it's know, i'm not spouting nonsense, the link to the news, and the blue post is right below.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php
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Fri, Mar 20 2009 8:32 PM
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Try exiting the client completely then launching it again, let me know if the problem persists after that. There will be no information lost when we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything when that happens.
@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to. All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game to encourage people to buy the addon.
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Fri, Mar 20 2009 9:11 PM
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Curse client installs the Curse profiler. If someone wanted to get technical they could say you're charging for the profiler. I'm simply curious, not trying to start a ruckus.
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Fri, Mar 20 2009 10:47 PM
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Please re run the installer at http://www.curse.com/client/
We had a bug in a early version of the CC that contain a corrupted updater.
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Sat, Mar 21 2009 12:36 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by dusthawk 
There will be no information lost when
we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything
when that happens.
@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to.
All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I
don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those
rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game
to encourage people to buy the addon.
Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:
 Quote: Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional
for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for
services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of
monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.
Is
there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client
offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to
interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?
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Sat, Mar 21 2009 3:24 PM
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Curse will have to stop offering the Warcraft extras under the premium side that they are charging for. They simply cannot have any service related to add ons, about add ons...anything that charges money.
charge for
services related to the add-on
Not rocket science.
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Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:32 PM
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I just read about this curse client premium thing and i am pretty disappointed by this. I was using the curse client only for the purpose of automatically updating my addons.
As this is now impossible without having to pay for it, i will now uninstall the client and wanted to ask how to delete my account here on curse as i will no longer be using the account. I couldn't find a 'cancel membership' button or the like.
Additionally to the fact that i no longer have a use for the client now, i am worried that only having installed a client which charges money for addon-related stuff could violate Blizzards new ToU, which is the other reason i am going to uninstall the client now.
I created my account here in the assumption that i were joining a free community as stated on the account-creation-site and not becoming a customer of a company.
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Sat, Mar 21 2009 11:40 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by vytae 
 Quote: Originally Posted by dusthawk 
There will be no information lost when
we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything
when that happens.
@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to.
All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I
don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those
rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game
to encourage people to buy the addon.
Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:
 Quote: Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional
for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for
services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of
monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.
Is
there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client
offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to
interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?
Yes you even highlighted it. It says services related to the addon. The premium client is a service related to the addon so that is EXACTLY what blizzard is reffering to.
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Mon, Mar 23 2009 1:19 AM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by Zorlac666 
 Quote: Originally Posted by vytae 
 Quote: Originally Posted by dusthawk 
There will be no information lost when
we launch Curse Premium, and you will not be forced to pay for anything
when that happens.
@Zorlacc: We've never charged money for addons and we don't plan to.
All addons on Curse.com are available for download free of charge so I
don't see how any of those rules apply to Curse. Blizzard put those
rules in place in response to Carbonite putting advertisements in game
to encourage people to buy the addon.
Sorry but I read the bold text as including the curse client in the rules:
 Quote: Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional
for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for
services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of
monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.
Is
there anything that would contradict this? What does the premium client
offer that the normal client doesn't and how would it be left open to
interpretation by blizzard and the rule stated above?
Yes you even highlighted it. It says services related to the addon. The premium client is a service related to the addon so that is EXACTLY what blizzard is reffering to.
Actually Bliz can not do a dang thing about the Curse client as it is not just Specific just to wow. It is also for War and I think one other.. i think. Curse doesnt say you have to have it... there is a free one... but The client is not just Wow specific hence blizzards rule can not apply to it.
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Mon, Mar 23 2009 2:51 PM
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The Curse Client Premium is a service related to the addons. It works with WoW addons, no matter how you try to argue it the premium service for the WoW part of the client will have to stop. Unless you want to see curse in a lawsuit.
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Mon, Mar 23 2009 6:00 PM
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does that mean my isp will have to offer its internet acces for free ?
its in relation to downloading the addon and accessing wow server i get charged to download any addon as per my terms of use of data re my ISP
LMAO Blizzard opened a can of worms there
and as per say curse isnt affected in that aspect as all addons are free to download there is no extra features for premium acces apart form like better speed. and auto update and so on.
this is in no relation to blizzard
woot wonder when my isp gets banned for charging for downloads of addons
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Mon, Mar 23 2009 10:30 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by Lotrado 
I just read about this curse client premium thing and i am pretty disappointed by this. I was using the curse client only for the purpose of automatically updating my addons.
As this is now impossible without having to pay for it, i will now uninstall the client and wanted to ask how to delete my account here on curse as i will no longer be using the account. I couldn't find a 'cancel membership' button or the like.
Additionally to the fact that i no longer have a use for the client now, i am worried that only having installed a client which charges money for addon-related stuff could violate Blizzards new ToU, which is the other reason i am going to uninstall the client now.
I created my account here in the assumption that i were joining a free community as stated on the account-creation-site and not becoming a customer of a company.
You are jumping the gun here. The client did not suddenly become pay-to-use; it is still free, and does all the things you want it to do. In fact, there is no non-premium version.
If you want to cancel your account, that's up to you, and nothing I can say will disuade you. But I assure you that there is no force-paid version. May I also suggest, in the future, about the Client or any other piece of software you may have, you USE it first before you assume anything?
Project Lead for SmartRes and MrBigglesworthDeath. SmartRes2 coming soon!
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Sun, Apr 5 2009 6:27 AM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by Scrugio 
does that mean my isp will have to offer its internet acces for free ?
its in relation to downloading the addon and accessing wow server i get charged to download any addon as per my terms of use of data re my ISP
LMAO Blizzard opened a can of worms there
and as per say curse isnt affected in that aspect as all addons are free to download there is no extra features for premium acces apart form like better speed. and auto update and so on.
this is in no relation to blizzard
woot wonder when my isp gets banned for charging for downloads of addons
That's a stupid example. Your ISP charges you for access to the internet, not for use of a tool that directly and automatically updates addons.
I'm sorry if you guys don't see that it's sinmple logic here. The Clien'ts premium server is a paid service related to the addons. if you don't understand that, you're in preschool or you probably should still be. As is I stated earlier you can word it all pretty and fany if you like, but gold selling companies have been trying to use fancy words for years, and what has that gotten them with blizzard? Sued for 8 million in one case in which blizzard won. is that the fate you want to see Curse end up with? Will curse go on if it gets hit with that kind of lawsuit? That's the questions you should be asking, and whether it's worth risking it for curse.
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Fri, Apr 10 2009 2:24 AM
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what is the benefit if you are a premium member?
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Wed, Apr 15 2009 9:55 PM
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Actually I find this whole line of conversation hilarious considering it's primarily between folks who know next to nothing about legitimate business and its conduct. There are many services that charge for various levels of access to their content, although still offering all the content for free through various other fashions. The best example is Fileplanet.com which has different levels of bandwidth available for downloading patches and is considered an "Official Mirror Site" by Blizz. Curse could easily follow this route with their client, although from the "entitlement" crowd I'm sure there'll be a ton of complaints as to why they should pay for the convienience.
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Wed, Apr 15 2009 10:22 PM
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Curse's new motto should be:
"Welcome to Curse, we're sorry for any convienence."
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Tue, Apr 21 2009 12:05 AM
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The new Curse Client is coming soon. I have not seen it (yet) but the devs say great things about it, and you guys should see the Staff forum for collected suggestions. It is unreal, and if even a fraction of those ideas make it, then the CC will be amazing.
I don't know what the exact differences between the Premium and the Free version will be, and something tells me they aren't finalized at this time.
For those you missed that one, important word in the previous sentence, I said FREE. The Premium version will be paid for, but the free version will still exist, and development on it will continue. Might even be the same program, just with some features locked. Shareware does this all the time.
Let's recap, shall we?
Free to download addons, either manually or with both version of the Client? Check.
Free Client for those who do not want to pay money? Check.
Curse.com hosting thousands of addons by hundreds of authors? Check.
Sounds good to me.
Project Lead for SmartRes and MrBigglesworthDeath. SmartRes2 coming soon!
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Wed, Apr 22 2009 12:42 PM
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well,this Premium thingy disturbs me aswell,not concerning if free or not.
you want to have money for premium membership (which i didn't clearly was informed about i was going to count in when registering myself at curse.com).
Let's say,its free now,and charged for in future...as i am now premium,i will have to change this myself.don't i ?
Sorry,but this waay round is an epic fail,even though i don't blame you for doing this in advance,but let's say by not seeing the concerns from the users PoV.
Regards
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Sun, Apr 26 2009 1:15 PM
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 Quote: Originally Posted by Arteas 
well,this Premium thingy disturbs me aswell,not concerning if free or not.
you want to have money for premium membership (which i didn't clearly was informed about i was going to count in when registering myself at curse.com).
Let's say,its free now,and charged for in future...as i am now premium,i will have to change this myself.don't i ?
Sorry,but this waay round is an epic fail,even though i don't blame you for doing this in advance,but let's say by not seeing the concerns from the users PoV.
Regards
I believe the Premium that you have right now is a preview, to get you interested with the new features and interface of this wonderful program; of course, if you don't want to pay for it, you don't have to pay for it. You will have the same Curse. You will have the same add-on selection.
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