Recently Curse and WoWInterface got together to come up with a solution for an ongoing problem. The problem in question is WowMatrix. The reasons they are a problem are many:
- WowMatrix violates author copyright and intellectual property rights:
- They redistribute addons without authors' permissions;
- When they first started they would scrape the legimate sites for addons then upload them to their own site in addition to deep-linking from the sites;
- They edited authors' files to remove donation requests and links to their home sites, etc.; and
- They have failed on many occasions to honour authors' requests to remove addons from their application;
- In a lot of cases the files served to users have been many versions out of date. This leads to authors having users complain about bugs, bugs that were fixed days or weeks ago in versions that are available on the legitimate sites, causing problems for both the authors and for the end-users;
- Until the community raised a hue and cry, WowMatrix didn't even supply the authors' names as to who wrote the addon, let alone provide a link to where the addon was legitimately hosted;
- WowMatrix leeches from the legitimate hosting sites without permission, let alone compensation. Originally, they scraped our sites so they could upload addons to their own site without permission, in addition to deeplinking from our sites. They have finally stopped hosting the addons on their own site, but they still deeplink from our sites, using our resources to run their program. Curse and WoWInterface use a lot of bandwidth every month which costs a lot of money. The way we pay our bills is through site ads, which are directly dependent on users viewing them, and premium memberships. WowMatrix bypasses our download pages, and, as a result, people are not viewing the ads. Of course, this means the ads aren't generating any revenue to pay for the bandwidth. At the rate they were going, if they were allowed to continue using our resources without any compensation, they were going to drive us right out of business. Not only are they stealing our bandwidth and preventing us from being able to recoup that loss, they also have their own ads all over their site and application. They are directly profiting from the stolen bandwidth; and
- Due to the massive resource drains they put on our sites, we have all experienced heightened loads and weaker performance, especially on patch days. During those days they download so much from our sites that sometimes we have a hard time keeping up to the demands; thus causing legitimate users to experience problems accessing our sites. That's just flat out unacceptable.
For months now, both sites and multiple authors have been trying to come up with solutions to the problems caused by WowMatrix. However, WowMatrix just keeps ignoring authors' requests to remove their addons from their application, working around the protections we have put in place, and proving repeatedly that they have no intention of ever becoming responsible, legitimate members of the community. Instead, they choose to continue to leech off the community. Well we, Curse and WowInterface, have gotten together and between us we believe we may have found a solution to prevent them from pulling authors' addons from our sites to redistribute without permission and stealing our bandwidth any longer. Unfortunately we cannot release details on the solution, so as to keep it viable.
"Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah, get to the important question: What does this mean for me, your sites' user?" For the majority of users it should be completely transparent, you should not notice any difference whatsoever, other than improved site responsiveness during patch days. We hope that we will be able to revert the changes made to our sites eventually, if WowMatrix ever stops violating authors' copyright and ceases stealing our bandwidth and other resources.
If you were previously using WowMatrix to keep your addons updated, please use our official updaters (Curse, WoWInterface). You may also mark addons as favorites on both WoWInterface and Curse in order to be alerted when they are updated.
Kaelten
Administrator, Curse & WowAce
Cairenn
Administrator, WoWInterface
Comments
Despite this, let me offer a few, semi-constructive points:
-Runs as a service (I always liked that wowmatrix didn't even need to be installed)
-Conflicts with firewall (I use comodo, if that matters)
-It is missing a few add-ons (Perhaps you can grow on your newfound partnership with wowinterface?)
I'll use it, if only for lack of a better option.
Thanks for your patience, and I'll just get used to exercising some as I get used to this new client.
Burnz
As Kaelten has said we're constantly listening to feedback to improve the client (hopefully the current version speaks for that). The issue with WoWMatrix modifying files / file install locations is unfortunately something we cannot detect and probably won't be fixable on its own.
Quick note on running as a service-
It's actually possible to disable this effect. Here are the steps:
- In the client toolbar (File, Tools, Help) click on Tools.
- Now click Options.
- In "General" check the box that says "When I close the Curse Client, exit the application (remove from system tray)".
- In "Startup" un-check "Automatically start the Curse Client when I log on to Windows".
- Click OK.
This *should* disable what you're seeing in that regard. If it's not, please let us know if possible so we can look into it.
curseclient - allways problems - outdated addons in database
squeet: http://static.curseforge.net/uploads/18/343/19/Curse_Client-3.0.0.3.1.dmg
i never gived wowmatrix a second try , after it "damages" !Swatter from the Auctioneer package... (simply deleting it WITHOUT infomation for the user!)
ps. keep up the good work ;)
Thanks very much for giving the Curse Client a second-look, and a very honest and accurate review.
This version of the client (3.0+) has been in development for roughly two months, by three people. I developed the backend web service (which provides the Curse Client all the data it needs to identify and download addons updates) and led work on the PC-version re-write. We've reengineered nearly every single code module and redesigned every single user interface. It is our hope that users switching from WowMatrix to the Curse Client will discover an addon manager with an improved user experience, and a more robust feature set.
Here's a short list of features that only the Curse Client can offer:
1. A flexible multi-game (and multi-game-instance) management system. Need to manage addons for your WoW PTR install? No problem. Also play WAR or Runes of Magic? We've got you covered.
2. Release preference support. With the Curse Client, you can choose whether to be notified only when a new "Release" is available, or install the latest "Beta" or "Alpha". Unlike WowMatrix, we never assume anything with the Curse Client - we let you decide.
3. Change Logs. Ever wondered what the author changed or fixed in the latest release? No problem. Just click the "Open Change Log" link in the addon info panel, or right click on the addon and select "View Change Log".
4. Modern User Interface. The Curse Client has been built to support modern UI standards, offering list sorting, column resizing and descriptive icons.
These are just some of the features we've worked very hard to bring to the new Curse Client.
Believe me when I say that all of us at Curse agree that the old client was substandard in nearly every way. For some time now, it has been our primary directive at the company to deliver a true market leader in addon management, and we have worked tirelessly to achieve that goal.
Give the Curse Client a try. We think you'll like it.
Since this latest revelation with WoWmatrix and basically forcing users to use our service, at least you have Copied WoWmatrix Client Interface.
To say that we "copied" the WowMatrix UI is absurd. Compare the two side by side, and you'll find more different than in common.
We took a very deliberate approach when designing the client UI, asking many of our users for feedback and design ideas. In nearly every case, users pointed to the WowAce Updater as a good example of an updater UI. So, if anything, we borrowed many of the UI conventions and features from the WowAce updater.
The similarities that needed to be copied was a list of addons installed and a means to search for them through the client. Regardless of whichever way you wish to banter this back and forth Curse had to ensure that client felt and looked similar to WoWMatrix. This was one of the reasons it got used and your own client got deleted from my computer.
Anyway, another topic of discussion is what is this I'm hearing about a paid premium service for your client for automatic updating of mods. Is there any truth to this?