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Curse and WoWInterface working together to help protect our authors and other site-users

Recently Curse and WoWInterface got together to come up with a solution for an ongoing problem. The problem in question is WowMatrix. The reasons they are a problem are many:

  • WowMatrix violates author copyright and intellectual property rights:
    • They redistribute addons without authors' permissions;
    • When they first started they would scrape the legimate sites for addons then upload them to their own site in addition to deep-linking from the sites;
    • They edited authors' files to remove donation requests and links to their home sites, etc.; and
    • They have failed on many occasions to honour authors' requests to remove addons from their application;
  • In a lot of cases the files served to users have been many versions out of date. This leads to authors having users complain about bugs, bugs that were fixed days or weeks ago in versions that are available on the legitimate sites, causing problems for both the authors and for the end-users;
  • Until the community raised a hue and cry, WowMatrix didn't even supply the authors' names as to who wrote the addon, let alone provide a link to where the addon was legitimately hosted;
  • WowMatrix leeches from the legitimate hosting sites without permission, let alone compensation. Originally, they scraped our sites so they could upload addons to their own site without permission, in addition to deeplinking from our sites. They have finally stopped hosting the addons on their own site, but they still deeplink from our sites, using our resources to run their program. Curse and WoWInterface use a lot of bandwidth every month which costs a lot of money. The way we pay our bills is through site ads, which are directly dependent on users viewing them, and premium memberships. WowMatrix bypasses our download pages, and, as a result, people are not viewing the ads. Of course, this means the ads aren't generating any revenue to pay for the bandwidth. At the rate they were going, if they were allowed to continue using our resources without any compensation, they were going to drive us right out of business. Not only are they stealing our bandwidth and preventing us from being able to recoup that loss, they also have their own ads all over their site and application. They are directly profiting from the stolen bandwidth; and
  • Due to the massive resource drains they put on our sites, we have all experienced heightened loads and weaker performance, especially on patch days. During those days they download so much from our sites that sometimes we have a hard time keeping up to the demands; thus causing legitimate users to experience problems accessing our sites. That's just flat out unacceptable.

For months now, both sites and multiple authors have been trying to come up with solutions to the problems caused by WowMatrix. However, WowMatrix just keeps ignoring authors' requests to remove their addons from their application, working around the protections we have put in place, and proving repeatedly that they have no intention of ever becoming responsible, legitimate members of the community. Instead, they choose to continue to leech off the community. Well we, Curse and WowInterface, have gotten together and between us we believe we may have found a solution to prevent them from pulling authors' addons from our sites to redistribute without permission and stealing our bandwidth any longer. Unfortunately we cannot release details on the solution, so as to keep it viable.

"Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah, get to the important question: What does this mean for me, your sites' user?" For the majority of users it should be completely transparent, you should not notice any difference whatsoever, other than improved site responsiveness during patch days. We hope that we will be able to revert the changes made to our sites eventually, if WowMatrix ever stops violating authors' copyright and ceases stealing our bandwidth and other resources.

If you were previously using WowMatrix to keep your addons updated, please use our official updaters (Curse, WoWInterface). You may also mark addons as favorites on both WoWInterface and Curse in order to be alerted when they are updated.

Kaelten
Administrator, Curse & WowAce

Cairenn
Administrator, WoWInterface

Comments

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  • #900
    All you managed to do was make updating my addons harder.

    Thanks for nothing.
  • #901
    You guys (everyone) Really need to stop whining about this. You are using a ,otherwise free, Service of downloading add-ons off their site, and complain when they ask you to buy the premium package so they can get the cash they need to pay for things. And as you see they are working diligently to get a website ,called in the WoW world, Ninja out of service. In turn this helps us with downloading on major patch days. (1 week to complete my add ons) And I know there is more then 1 or 2 people here posting (whining) about paying a premium for a service that they use (and sits for hours till update is done). When in turn they are gonna make your downloads and experience better. This is a business believe it or not. So L2Use duck tape on your mouth when you are gonna say something retarded. If you have a issue with what I said, then you should just turn off your computer and never turn it on again.


    (yes my English is bad but at least I made my point)
  • #902
    lee200082 said
    05-19-2009 2:03 PM (6 hours, 47 minutes ago)

    Curse needs to produce and implement some kind of landing page for first time access (cookie based maybe?) to get users to agree to the terms and conditions before accesing the site. This would then give them a legal recourse to sue WM if they continue for the bandwidth costs incurred.

    ------------------

    Not really... by using the site you agree to the terms of service, linked at the bottom of every page. They certainly could pretty easily have a case against them if they wanted.
  • #903
    CURSE is the biggest ripoff in resources on a pc and the one ting I find is funny is that they wont respond to the PODCAST " The Instance " to back up there claim against wowmatrix or even go on there... all I see is CURSE being a lil sidewalk whore and yelling and screaming since it can't be the only one doing the addon site...
  • #904
    Thanks for making it so much harder to update my addons. I just want a nice easy way to update all of my addons. I had that with WowMatrix. You killed it. I'm still downloading the same addons, from the same source, but now it's much more difficult and takes far longer.

    Guess what your move did? It hurt YOUR users. Me! My opinion of Curse and WowInterface has really sunk. And pretty much ever WoW player I know feels the same way.
  • #905
    Thanks Curse.com I now get all my addons directly from the addons author and will never support curse/ace/wowui ever again.

    wake up people you dont see what curse is doing
  • #906
    fight the powah scrimpy lmao
  • #907
    Well, seems to me that options to achieve a win-win-situation were carelessly ignored, right from the beginning. I honestly do not understand why. If Curse and WoWInterface wanted to make some money with advertising, why you guys didn’t communicate this to WoWmatrix straight up? With that much programmers involved there should be a way to get the ad on the screen of the fan while downloading with WoWMatrix. Could have been selling argument for you guys.
    This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.
    Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter.
    Sincerely
    Just a user
  • #908
    Well, seems to me that options to achieve a win-win-situation were carelessly ignored, right from the beginning. I honestly do not understand why. If Curse and WoWInterface wanted to make some money with advertising, why you guys didn’t communicate this to WoWmatrix straight up? With that much programmers involved there should be a way to get the ad on the screen of the fan while downloading with WoWMatrix. Could have been selling argument for you guys.
    This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.
    Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter.
    Sincerely
    Just a user
  • #909
    I know this story is a as dead as dead gets, but simply put, WoWMatrix is a thief. Rather than host the files themselves, at which point they must then pay for bandwidth, they steal links to other sites. You did that to me and I owned that site? Better expect to PAY the bill yourself. Because I'm coming for you, don't care where you are in the world, your paying me for that lost revenue.

    As far as they then download one copy from Curse/WoWUI and then claim "okay there see not stealing your bandwidth" argument. Sure that is fine and good, so long as the original author does not care about it being hosted there. Original author says get it off your site, you comply. Nuff said.

    WoWMatrix is a program made to STEAL from other sites. I do not condone it or accept it. If I was any party involved, feel lucky I am not, I would have hunted them down and sued their pants off.
  • #910
    Not really interested in philosophical discussion about who is right or wrong here, because to be honest I have no way of knowing. What I do know is curse client doesnt work and I dont understand that. Bottom line the add on goes to the desktop of mac not in add ons folder and moving it, (not that i should have to ) doesnt work
  • #911
    Gregt44, If you look at the sys reqs for v3 of the client, you may find it will not work with your hardware. However, the v4 client, currently in closed beta, addresses compatibility, and other issues.
    [quote=Kaelten]

    I've started limited testing already. I'll be expanding it out further as time goes by. I've had to push full open beta back a few weeks and will be inviting more people to test it as well.

    The v4 Mac client isn't yet feature complete and as a result I don't want to just post a link and have it there for people to download.

    [/quote]

    A volunteer Curse Moderator!

    Back to WoW on Llane in Knights of the Storm, Alliance (Myrroddin, Jelia, BadAsh, Vanhoeffen)

  • #1112
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