Recently Curse and WoWInterface got together to come up with a solution for an ongoing problem. The problem in question is WowMatrix. The reasons they are a problem are many:
- WowMatrix violates author copyright and intellectual property rights:
- They redistribute addons without authors' permissions;
- When they first started they would scrape the legimate sites for addons then upload them to their own site in addition to deep-linking from the sites;
- They edited authors' files to remove donation requests and links to their home sites, etc.; and
- They have failed on many occasions to honour authors' requests to remove addons from their application;
- In a lot of cases the files served to users have been many versions out of date. This leads to authors having users complain about bugs, bugs that were fixed days or weeks ago in versions that are available on the legitimate sites, causing problems for both the authors and for the end-users;
- Until the community raised a hue and cry, WowMatrix didn't even supply the authors' names as to who wrote the addon, let alone provide a link to where the addon was legitimately hosted;
- WowMatrix leeches from the legitimate hosting sites without permission, let alone compensation. Originally, they scraped our sites so they could upload addons to their own site without permission, in addition to deeplinking from our sites. They have finally stopped hosting the addons on their own site, but they still deeplink from our sites, using our resources to run their program. Curse and WoWInterface use a lot of bandwidth every month which costs a lot of money. The way we pay our bills is through site ads, which are directly dependent on users viewing them, and premium memberships. WowMatrix bypasses our download pages, and, as a result, people are not viewing the ads. Of course, this means the ads aren't generating any revenue to pay for the bandwidth. At the rate they were going, if they were allowed to continue using our resources without any compensation, they were going to drive us right out of business. Not only are they stealing our bandwidth and preventing us from being able to recoup that loss, they also have their own ads all over their site and application. They are directly profiting from the stolen bandwidth; and
- Due to the massive resource drains they put on our sites, we have all experienced heightened loads and weaker performance, especially on patch days. During those days they download so much from our sites that sometimes we have a hard time keeping up to the demands; thus causing legitimate users to experience problems accessing our sites. That's just flat out unacceptable.
For months now, both sites and multiple authors have been trying to come up with solutions to the problems caused by WowMatrix. However, WowMatrix just keeps ignoring authors' requests to remove their addons from their application, working around the protections we have put in place, and proving repeatedly that they have no intention of ever becoming responsible, legitimate members of the community. Instead, they choose to continue to leech off the community. Well we, Curse and WowInterface, have gotten together and between us we believe we may have found a solution to prevent them from pulling authors' addons from our sites to redistribute without permission and stealing our bandwidth any longer. Unfortunately we cannot release details on the solution, so as to keep it viable.
"Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah, get to the important question: What does this mean for me, your sites' user?" For the majority of users it should be completely transparent, you should not notice any difference whatsoever, other than improved site responsiveness during patch days. We hope that we will be able to revert the changes made to our sites eventually, if WowMatrix ever stops violating authors' copyright and ceases stealing our bandwidth and other resources.
If you were previously using WowMatrix to keep your addons updated, please use our official updaters (Curse, WoWInterface). You may also mark addons as favorites on both WoWInterface and Curse in order to be alerted when they are updated.
Kaelten
Administrator, Curse & WowAce
Cairenn
Administrator, WoWInterface
Comments
Do you think CNN has a 'cap' on how much bandwidth they can use? Or MicroSoft? Or Apple?
I'll just call you an idiot now, since you chose to call me one and speak out your ass about a topic you know just enough about to be considered a moron. Now go play with your little personal web site service and leave real web sites to the big boys.
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you seem to be more of a bigger dumb ass then the rest, you think curse can compaete to cnn or microsoft your answwer was a very stupid one which shows me how lil ur i.q really is, you think curse is a company, curse is nothing more then prob one to 3 people running it, and your not part of there team are you, so why do you take up for this so called company that you seem that can make more or the same amount of money as cnn, or even microsoft.
belive you moron if they exceeded there bandwith like they claim they would have been shut down, dont belive me ask any one with a higher iq then your's.
and i see you have iq of ted turner where the big boys play, wait wait didnt he sell almost his shit inclucdong cough cough cnn, becuase he wasnt a big boy where you like to play cock and ball's.
by you moron fag g o t.
hahaha last time i post in this shitty forum, and you can talk back i allow it but do a search next time so you can a better i.q then what you have now plz plz plz have one better then dear ole ted turner
Thanks for nothing.
(yes my English is bad but at least I made my point)
05-19-2009 2:03 PM (6 hours, 47 minutes ago)
Curse needs to produce and implement some kind of landing page for first time access (cookie based maybe?) to get users to agree to the terms and conditions before accesing the site. This would then give them a legal recourse to sue WM if they continue for the bandwidth costs incurred.
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Not really... by using the site you agree to the terms of service, linked at the bottom of every page. They certainly could pretty easily have a case against them if they wanted.
Guess what your move did? It hurt YOUR users. Me! My opinion of Curse and WowInterface has really sunk. And pretty much ever WoW player I know feels the same way.
wake up people you dont see what curse is doing
This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.
Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter.
Sincerely
Just a user
This inconsistent story about using your bandwidth on one side and not wanting them to host authors on the other is really weak. Accuse a fellow fan project isn’t really helping you guys in getting the trust of the community, and won’t help to establish a positive image of your advertising customers. One hour or less learning about modern advertising strategies could have avoided this. In the age of culture-snacks interruptive ad-strategies are obsolete, and sooner or later the guys responsible for sponsoring you guys will have a workshop about this and reevaluate this manner.
Anyway, these are just my two cents on strategy. The bottom line is: nobody cares who is right or wrong. We, the users, want easy use, contents and reliable sites. This all is at stake because of decisions made. Pride isn’t a good counselor, so work something out with WM and don’t get more people you want to reach with ads pissed off about this matter.
Sincerely
Just a user
As far as they then download one copy from Curse/WoWUI and then claim "okay there see not stealing your bandwidth" argument. Sure that is fine and good, so long as the original author does not care about it being hosted there. Original author says get it off your site, you comply. Nuff said.
WoWMatrix is a program made to STEAL from other sites. I do not condone it or accept it. If I was any party involved, feel lucky I am not, I would have hunted them down and sued their pants off.
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I've started limited testing already. I'll be expanding it out further as time goes by. I've had to push full open beta back a few weeks and will be inviting more people to test it as well.
The v4 Mac client isn't yet feature complete and as a result I don't want to just post a link and have it there for people to download.
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