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No surprise then that Blizzard will be announcing it's new MMO sometime this year.
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yes i noticed alot of players that get to raid the higher 25 mans were rather upset about the arena gear. even though damage wise the arena gear doesn't come close as far as using it to raid. they were upset because pre-bc they basically ran over the bg's with their tier 3. and now when they go into the arena's with their tier 5-6 they get owned. I will admit that they did make it alittle too easy to get the arena gear because let's face it...if your arena team is anywhere near 2000 rating you get your 5 of 5 and your weapons pretty damn quick compared to the time it takes for someone raiding weekly to finish off their set. However, i think the effort in arenas is more then many raids. You do the same thing every time you raid. but arenas are always different due to the fact you don't know who your fighting. i like the change to the pvp since i don't get to experience raiding due to timezone difference.

omg why isnt pirate of the carribean online up there? i think their 1000 players will beat wow down, and MAY even attract the children away and maybe get 1012 players! its free!
(i saw commercial on T.V. earlier)
ok but seriously.
1 i dont know much about AoC so i cant say much here.
2 pirates? cmon guys... ninjas > pirates. always. (pirate mmo, what type of content will you have to keep people playing?)
3 warhammer ftw, pvp is awesome, they are making pvp the main thing in the game, even have pvp pve encounters, such as fighting raid bosses while pvping (friend told me that, he may be wrong but it sounds awesome), they already have a large base of fans from the warhammer RTS and tabletop games, and... its warhammer.
WoW will continue to be the top dog in the MMO industry for awhile, but when it goes down i think WAR will be the one to take its place. WotLK will bring many things, but if it does something else in WotLK like BC did to pvp, then they will be losing subscribers. ( yes i do know a few people that quit because of the pvp change, and i laugh at them for being that... whats the word? >.> oh, retarded , selfish (in a way) and.. childish that others get gear as fast as they do.)

War = MUCH more pvp oriented, sure it may be like wow, but MANY of the subscribers (me included) will switch because of this, we enjoy doing PvP and War offers what WoW doesnt, i enjoy playing wow and all, but battle grounds are just....... boring. as alliance on muradin we get our asses kicked every BG, and av is 50 / 50 but its more of a pve race than pvp encounters. unless your in a bridge battle, then everybody keeps yelling "OMFG NOOBS WTF GHATEJIPY^^AYHB<QI#Y^#<HBQ% SPAAAAAAAAAM USELESS SPAM! AFK AND LET THEM WIN!"
pvp in wow sucks, honestly gear is what makes pvp, not skill, its button mashing. (yes it does take some skill but in the end its just gear, a 70 warrior with kara epics is gonna get pwned by a 70 war in SSC epics, same as any other class.)

dude, warhammer is as known as warcraft, believe it or not people do play warhammer, its not "some random mmo", just like WoW it has other games, and if i remember correctly the RTS games came out relatively the same time, i could be wrong though.
yes LOTR is well known, but well known does not equal a good game, players graphics playability and content make a good game. Which Warhammer will have, especailly in the PvP portion of it.

Ok let me make it as simple as humanly possible. WoTLK will > all. Have a nice day

to be honest the reason wow seems to beat out most games is the simplicity and the fact that it's a well rounded game. The game isn't ridiculously difficult and we all know this because people that can barely tie their shoes can make it to 70. But at the same time wow's gameplay and content exceed most games. Alot of games have good content but horrible gameplay. Others have great gameplay but the content consist of a never ending struggle to hit max lvl which only 1-2% of the population may hit within the first 2-3 years of the game. Also being able to redo your talents is something that most games don't allow and in many cases having to live with your mistakes or bad decisions is the 2nd choice to rerolling your character. Not having to do your stat points also makes wow alittle simpler. As long as you know what type of gear you want that's as far most gamers have to look into it their stats. WoW has alot going for it that many game developers deem not important. Repair bills, reagents, Mounts, Soulbound equippment, etc...all these things put money back into the game creating a economy that will have a minimum inflation.

If a game creator wants to make something that's gonna be better then wow....look at what makes wow and other games a success and make it better. but if they decide to put out a game that's lacking in many ways then their just asking for the loss. Many of us are willing to pay the monthly because we feel it's worth it. but you can't just put out a game and expect people to pay for it and like it. Many people were hesitant to pay for wow but later decided it was money well spent when they saw how well made the game really was.

WAR and AoC will be more than happy with 2 million subscribers each. That will put them squarely at second and third most popular game in the world, and most succesful MMORPG ever after WoW. Nobody can complain about a position like that.

You MIGHT be on to something there. Nobody has heard of the game. I wonder why people arent considering it a possibility that Cabal can overtake wow, hmm?

I'm surprised to not see on here is Cabal Online... I mean, has anyone even heard of it yet? You can't possibly say the lack-of-warhammer warhammer, wearing no pants, or being a childish pirate could really contend well against WoW... Time will tell, I got high hopes in Cabal Online.

well no positive comments about the pirates game yet, so i'll just go ahead and say i like the idea of the pirate genre. Sid Meyer's Pirates kept me entertained for quite a while, so an MMO in that vein could probably be pretty fun for me. I don't see any on here, but probably there are folks out there who would agree. :)

Personally Id love to see a game that will at least make Blizzard get back on their toes in terms of WoW. Its obvious at this point that very little effort is put into the game. For example the latest PVP fiasco. Blizzard created a PVP BG free item giveaway system that ruined the gameplay for alot of players. And at this point the only way to counter it is for BLizzard to put most of their GMs to punish those leechers instead of providing service to others that are making tickets ingame.

The sad thing about this all is that a good game like WoW has been half destroyed at this point to implement some kind of PVP into it. It has failed horribly and most of the pvpers will be looking to get the heck away from the unbalanced and exploided content at first chance.

Now - That doesn't mean any of those 3 games mentioned can ever challenge WoW. To do that they need to take pretty much everything that was/is good about WoW and implement it to their game. Sadly thats where games like LOTRO failed misserably. Basic and childis errors like bad looking UI, even worse looking items and weapons, and very unreal looking movements of characters and mobs are the biggest drawback to that game. Even tho alot of the quests and storyline are great. Sadly I think its to l8t for Turbine to change these things meaning LOTRO is a flop and will suffer from now on because very low playerbase.

Of these 3 games I think Warhammer will probably do best. It is a game that will be talking alot from the WoW basics and improve on many of the small things that can make it even more enjoyable. It will be simualre game with something new! That will hit the spot I think. AOC is at this point abit of unknown size and like LOTRO is largely based on how good they will do with the basics. Sadly I noticed that the characer animations seem to be sluggish moving instead of fluent like the less grapix heavy WoW has manged to produce. POTBS - Dont know anything about it - I dont like Pirates

All in all WoW is by far the best package out there atm even tho things are turning abit ugly in many ways. Big part of the succsess to WoW is down to the animators and the open source addons that allow the players to create their playing enviroment. And that is very important in a MMORPG where you spend months playing. I hope some DEVs will take note of that and really work on the UI features to allow the players to make their own UI world without to much hassle.

No surprise then that Blizzard will be announcing it's new MMO sometime this year.